tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8299409348701300460.post154168701800780322..comments2023-05-25T09:14:35.702+01:00Comments on The Vernacular Vicar: Having Their Cake and Blessing ItAnonymoushttp://www.blogger.com/profile/08268991293847325315noreply@blogger.comBlogger4125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8299409348701300460.post-53799328336629750512012-11-09T10:10:47.848+00:002012-11-09T10:10:47.848+00:00Def humanist, hence my annoyance. Civil celebrants...Def humanist, hence my annoyance. Civil celebrants tend, in my limited experience, to be very good as distinct from the former which are there in the negative light of a standpoint of denial!Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08268991293847325315noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8299409348701300460.post-53860788468747798712012-11-09T09:49:33.490+00:002012-11-09T09:49:33.490+00:00Humanist or Civil Celebrant? The latter I have onl...Humanist or Civil Celebrant? The latter I have only recently bumped into, they will incorporate prayers etc into services as the family wish - with no particular faith group focus...if that is what is wanted.<br /><br />Our local Civil Celebrant is a committed Christian, and a very nice chap. But if asked he will not mention God at all during a funeral - he has the freedom to do that in a way I don't (and wouldn't want to have, obviously)!Alastairhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00117533964126439556noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8299409348701300460.post-29407693110656135022012-11-07T23:03:13.547+00:002012-11-07T23:03:13.547+00:00I've been to 2 Humanist/secular funerals in re...I've been to 2 Humanist/secular funerals in recent years, and found them both profoundly depressing. The first was lead by a humanist woman, who had obviously made the effort to find out from the relatives as much as she could about the deceased (a man in his 90s when he died), and she made the eulogy quite amusing, but as there was nothing at all about the Christian hope of life after death, the overall effect of the event was dismal. The other was the funeral of a man in his mid-40s who had succumbed to oesophageal cancer, very sadly, and was conducted by an Anglican chaplain from the hospice where he had died. Obviously it was a sad occasion, as this man was young and highly intelligent, and his widow was devastated at his loss, but as neither she nor he were believers thay had requested a totally non-religious ceremony, and again it was so sad that there was no hope, just despair. I found it very strange that the priest hed agreed to conduct the ceremony on those terms, although I gathered that he'd become close to both of them during the time in the hospice, but I don't think that he was right to go against his own calling as a priest and a Christian, effectively denying the truth he preached on a regular basis. Maybe I'm wrong, but it left me very sad and feeling that the Lord had been denied again.Helvanoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8299409348701300460.post-69469839587535359712012-11-07T18:24:17.771+00:002012-11-07T18:24:17.771+00:00I have never been to Humanist funeral thankfully. ...I have never been to Humanist funeral thankfully. I cannot believe (this is not to say I am calling you a liar here you understand) they have the gall to stand for what they stand for and then to say prayers etc. Farcical doesn't quite cover it, do the families of the departed not feel they have been sold a dud?<br />Lack of integrity and much better training needed for their people. However flattering that Gods/our words are so good that they are drawn to using them. Maybe there is hope for them yet :-)Shonahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05687914247368368360noreply@blogger.com